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An Investing Opportunity of a Lifetime: Lessons from the Sprott Precious Metals Roundtable

 

What happens when you bring together four of the top minds in the precious metals investing space to share insights from the front lines of gold, silver platinum and palladium investing? These excerpts from a Sprott Resources Roundtable featuring Gloom, Boom and Doom Report Publisher Marc Faber, Sprott Asset Management Chief Investment Strategist John Embry, Sprott Global Resource Investments Founder Rick Rule and Sprott Asset Management Founder Eric Sprott prove that great minds think big.

Sprott Resources: Marc Faber, help us understand the Federal Reserve’s recent announcement regarding tapering.

Marc Faber: When the Fed began Quantitative Easing 1 (QE1) in 2008, I said it would continue until QE99. So I’m not so surprised by the “no tapering decision.” But this money printing has numerous unintended consequences and actually does not help the economy much. Asset purchases benefit maybe 1% of the population, the super-rich. I’m not complaining because I own stock, bonds and real estate, but from a social point of view, it’s undesirable because it creates widening wealth inequality and dissatisfaction among the majority of voters. This could lead to more votes for a populist leader who will then tax the wealthy more heavily.

SR: You are based in Asia. China, India and Russia have been very big buyers of gold bullion. What is behind that trend?

MF: In the Far East, we have a tradition of owning physical gold, but what is new is the Chinese government encouraging citizens to own gold. I believe that in the face of political instability and a lack of faith in the U.S. dollar, Asians will continue to accumulate physical gold and silver.

SR: What is the component that you have in your own portfolio of precious metals? And to add onto that, would you comment on the fact that precious metals shares are vastly oversold and they are a complement to physical bullion holdings?

MF: I recommend an asset allocation of about 25% in equities; 25% in fixed income, securities and cash; 25% in real estate; and 25% in precious metals—gold, silver. I think I have around 25% in gold whereby I don’t value my gold. I have it and it’s my insurance policy. It is important that one day when the so-called shit hits the fan—and I think the Fed is well on its way to creating that situation—you have access to your gold, that it is not taken away.

SR: John Embry, you went through the market correction in 1975–1976. Would you share some perspective from that time?

John Embry: That’s a very good question because there’s a remarkable correlation with what is happening today. For the first three years of the 1970s, the gold price rose almost sixfold, and there was great enthusiasm. Then from 1974 to 1976, it was virtually cut in half. At that point, you could cut the pessimism with a knife it was so thick. Then, gold rose another eightfold from there. The price correction of the last two years has been even more counterintuitive than it was in the 1970s. The sentiment arguably is even more negative, yet the fundamentals are better than they were in the 1970s, so I think we’re setting up for a major reversal. The only thing we’re debating here today is whether it’s going to happen tomorrow, next week or several months from now. It’s just a matter of short-term timing because everything is in place.

SR: We have seen an incredible correction. During the upward trend we have seen during the past 10 years, we have had a number of corrections along the way, including some “puke” days. It looked like we had a bottoming at around $1,200 an ounce ($1,200/oz). We’ve corrected back to $1,300/oz, and now we seem to be heading upward. Can you help us put some perspective on that?

JE: We have had, from top to bottom, over a $700/oz correction in the past two years. That attests to the power of the central banks, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the bullion banks and their ability to control the paper market aggressively. I think that is coming to an end because it has driven the price down to remarkably undervalued levels. Talk of gold going to $1,000/oz and below is ridiculous. It’s not going to happen. I think this is a fabulous opportunity because it’s hugely undervalued and the fundamentals are compelling. We’re just on the verge.

SR: What happened to the gold shares in that period?

JE: Gold shares were similarly under pressure, but their subsequent gains were historic. After gold topped in 1980 and then started to re-rally, the gold shares exploded again. You’re talking in many cases, ten- or twentybaggers. So I wouldn’t get discouraged here for the simple reason that I think gold and silver shares are now as cheap as they’ve ever been in history relative to where they are going. So it’s a great buying opportunity, but very few people seem to be willing to take advantage of it.

SR: Rick Rule, what is happening in the platinum and palladium sector?

Rick Rule: Platinum and palladium benefit from all of the factors concerning precious metals. They have for many centuries fulfilled the same roles with regard to stores of value and mechanisms for transferring or storing wealth as gold and silver. Where they differ a bit is on the supply side. All of us know that a lot of the gold and silver that has been mined historically has been stored in vaults. So in the near term, supply considerations in gold and silver have to do with sellers’ intentions. I, like the prior speakers, believe that the holders’ intentions will turn very bullish, and it will be very good for gold and silver prices. But platinum and palladium supplies are different. They don’t get stored. They get used.

Currently, worldwide stocks of finished platinum and palladium bullion are less than one year’s platinum and palladium fabrication demand. The supply story gets more interesting because as a consequence of not having any stored bullion, the only supply is new mine supply and recycled supply. That new supply is very, very concentrated. South Africa constitutes 75% of world platinum supply and 39% of world palladium supplies. Russia supplies 13% of platinum supplies, 41% of palladium supplies. In many cases, current metal prices do not earn the cost of production. The consequence is that new mine supply, which is the most important source of supply, is declining. This isn’t something that’s going to occur in the future. It’s something that is occurring right now. Further, costs are going up because workers’ wages have to go up. Social take in the form of taxes, rents and royalties have to go up, but they can’t because the industry doesn’t earn its cost of capital. On the demand side, platinum and palladium provide incredible utility to users. We anticipate that the utilization of platinum and palladium will continue to grow even in the face of supply declines. There is only one way that dichotomy can be resolved, and that’s in the form of price.

It is also worth knowing that just in the last year and a half, platinum and palladium have begun to enjoy elevated status from an investment point of view. The physical inventory held by exchange-traded products (ETPs) like our own Sprott Physical Platinum and Palladium Trust have increased dramatically. This could exacerbate an already-troubled supply-demand imbalance.

SR: Eric Sprott, what is going on in the silver market?

Eric Sprott: Marc indicated that he was a 25% investor in precious metals; I am probably an 80% investor in precious metals. Silver COMEX inventories have held up even though the price has gone down. It’s sort of an interesting contrast with gold where there were huge redemptions in the ETFs. Those redemptions, in my mind, were created to solve the physical shortage. We had 700 tons of ETF liquidation. That would represent close to 50% of all mine supply annually, in other words, an increase in supply. But it was needed because we definitely have a shortage.

I continue to believe that silver will be the investment of the decade because 1) of its industrial uses and 2) it will take very little investment demand to really move things along.

We have years where people are buying 50 times more silver than gold, and yet mine production is only 11:1 silver versus gold. By my calculation, we only have 3 oz of silver available for investment purposes for every ounce of gold. Every time I’m talking to metal dealers, my favorite question is: What part of your business is silver, and what part is gold? And almost everyone says, 50/50. I guarantee you, that cannot continue.

What I really want to talk about is what I think is the investment opportunity of my lifetime. I happen to very firmly believe that within the next year, gold will be through $2,000/oz. I’ve chosen $2,400/oz as a target of where it will be in a year. That has amazing implications for gold equities. Back in 2000, I was beginning to aggressively buy mining stocks. At the time, I thought if gold could ever get to $400/oz, maybe these companies whose costs then were $300/oz could earn $100/oz and we could make three or four times our money. With most producers averaging around $1,000/oz costs, if the gold price goes to $2,400/oz, you have $1,400/oz of margin. That is 14 times the opportunity in 2000.

I totally subscribe to the manipulation of gold and silver and the shortages of gold and silver. I’ve written many articles asking whether the central banks have any gold left and what is going to happen to gold when they finally give up the ghost, which I believe is coming. That is why I think the opportunity in the equities is spectacular. Of course, also I’m a great believer in owning physical gold and silver with my particular emphasis on silver these days.

View the Sprott Precious Metals Roundtable webcast here.

Swiss-born Marc Faber, who at age 24 earned his Ph.D. in economics magna cum laude from the University of Zurich, has lived in Hong Kong nearly 40 years. He worked in New York, Zurich and Hong Kong for White Weld & Co., an investment bank historically managed by Boston Brahmins until its sale to Merrill Lynch in 1978. From 1978 to 1990, Faber served as managing director of Drexel Burnham Lambert (HK), setting up his own investment advisory and fund management firm, Marc Faber Ltd. in mid-1990. His widely read monthly investment newsletter Gloom Boom & Doom Report highlights unusual investment opportunities. Faber is also the author of several books, including “Tomorrow’s Gold: Asia’s Age of Discovery” (2002), which spent several weeks on Amazon’s bestseller list and is being translated into Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai and German. He also contributes regularly to leading financial publications around the world. Much also has been written about Faber. Nury Vittachi, one of Asia’s most popular writers and speakers, published “Riding the Millennial Storm: Marc Faber’s Path to Profit in the Financial Markets” (1998). The Financial Times of London described him as “something of an icon” and Fortune called him a “congenital contrarian and shrewd Swiss investment advisor.”

John Embry is chief investment strategist at Sprott Asset Management and Sprott Gold and Precious Minerals Fund. He also co-chairs the Central GoldTrust Board of Trustees. An industry expert in precious metals, his experience as a portfolio management specialist spans more than 45 years. He joined Sprott in 2003, after 15 years as vice president of equities at RBC Global Investment.

Rick Rule, founder and chairman of Sprott Global Resource Investments Ltd., began his career in the securities business in 1974. He is a leading American retail broker specializing in mining, energy, water utilities, forest products and agriculture. His company has built a national reputation on taking advantage of global opportunities in the oil and gas, mining, alternative energy, agriculture, forestry and water industries.

Eric Sprott has over 40 years of experience in the investment industry. In 1981, he founded Sprott Securities (now called Cormark Securities Inc.), which today is one of Canada’s largest independently owned securities firms. After establishing Sprott Asset Management Inc. in December 2001 as a separate entity, Sprott divested his entire ownership of Sprott Securities to its employees. Sprott’s predictions on the state of the North American financial markets have been captured throughout the last several years in an investment strategy article that he authors titled “Markets At A Glance.” Sprott has been widely recognized for his strategic insights and his accurate market predictions over the years. His newest ventures are Sprott Money Ltd. and Sprott Physical Platinum and Palladium Trust.

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Russell: 3 Things I’m Watching

Posted by Richard Russell - Dow Theory Letters

on Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:22

For the first time in history, ALL the major central banks are printing money. One of two things will occur. If they continue to print, their respective currencies will lose their purchasing power, and we’ll have inflation or even hyper-inflation. If the central banks pull back on their printing, we’ll have crashing markets and a world depression. This is the problem with creating ever more debt. Ultimately, the debt owns you, and the compounding process renders the debt situation unsustainable, which is what the CBO has just warned us about.

The underlying problem is the common man’s desire for profits — his insatiable greed. Eventually, greed becomes its own worst enemy. To “grow” the economy, you must have expanding credit. Eventually, credit, when compounded, becomes unsustainable — particularly when a nation can print all the money it wants out of thin air. Thus, the acceptance of fiat money spells the eventual death of an economy.

Below I show a chart of JP Morgan, the biggest bank in the US. Here we see a textbook head-and-shoulders pattern that I think should break down. JPM was just hit with a huge $900 million fine, based on its notorious trader, known as the “London Whale.”

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Another choice place I’m watching is the US dollar. The US dollar has dropped three boxes on the P&F chart. If the dollar hits the 79 box, it will have issued a clarion sell signal. So at any rate, I’ve got my eye on the dollar.

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Here’s something that bothers me. Below we see the D-J Industrial Average. As you can see on the chart, over the last four trading sessions, the Dow has declined each day. Is this the sign of a market top that is subtly breaking down? If this declining action continues, I’ll really begin to wonder whether something ominous is in the cards.

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If This Is Success, Then Give Us Failure!

Posted by Bill Bonner - Diary of a Rogue Economist

on Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:46

Screen Shot 2013-09-26 at 4.05.06 PMThe lack of follow-through after the Fed’s historic announcement last week leaves us wondering:

Have equity investors already priced in “QE Forever”? If so, is there nowhere left to go but down?

We will leave that thought on the table… get up… and look out the window.

It’s been six years since Bear Stearns went broke and five years since Lehman Bros. declared bankruptcy. What, exactly, has changed? 

We wish we had been there. We would have loved to see the look on former Bear Stearns boss Jimmy Cayne’s face. He was once the richest player on Wall Street, with a stake in Bear Stearns worth more than a billion dollars. 

In July 2007, he was playing bridge in a championship match when executives of Bear Stearns came to the table.

“Uh, Jimmy… can we talk to you for a minute?”

“Not now. Can’t you see I’m in an important game?”

“But Jimmy, there’s something you should know… something that can’t wait.”

“All right already. What is it? Blurt it out, man!”

“OK. We’re broke. Two of our hedge funds collapsed last night. We’ve got no choice. We’ve got to seek Chapter 11 status immediately.”

Poor Jimmy. That moment marked the end of his greatness… and prefigured the Great Deleveraging, which would begin a year later when Lehman Bros. bit the dust. 

Cayne later sold his billion-dollar stake in Bear Stearns for $61 million — and he was lucky to get that. 

As every sentient biped knows, the developed world entered a financial crisis in 2008. Actually, the first cracks appeared a year earlier with Bear Stearns and distress in the most junky of all junk debt markets — subprime.

By 2007, this toxic debt had fallen so far below prime that you couldn’t find it with a metal detector. Besides, there was no metal — precious or base — in it. It was all paper. And the paper wasn’t worth a fraction of what people had paid for it.

But the Lehman bankruptcy marked the beginning — and, as it turned out, the end — of the Great Deleveraging. 

Thereafter, the feds were on the case… sandbagging the levies… dusting the forests with fire-killing chemicals… drilling escape holes for those trapped below the surface… pushing the debris out of the way… and in general making sure that the disaster was held in check.

For this, an adoring press awarded them hosannas and hoorays. Their photos appeared in popular business magazines along with captions describing them as “heroes” and “geniuses.” After all, the federal emergency workers had not merely pulled Goldman Sachs’ nuts out of the fire; they had saved an entire civilization and way of life. 

They were successful in preventing a Great Depression. Everybody said so.

Was there ever a better time to be a central banker?

The press took their words… examined them carefully… and uttered not a critical word. And no one mentioned that the words were hollow, meaningless or plain stupid. 

Instead, people thought they were being cagey… or intentionally opaque… as though the bankers were playing such a high-stakes game that they were not under any obligation to let their employers know what the hell they were actually doing. (An art mastered by none other than “the Maestro” himself, Alan Greenspan.)

And now we look around and wonder: What has improved? How have the problems, imbalances and excesses of 2007 been addressed?

One big change, perhaps, is the real estate market in the U.S. It is no longer so bubbly. Ordinary people no longer expect to get rich by buying residential property. Now, it’s the turn of big private equity outfits such as the Blackstone Group to try to make a fortune on bricks and mortar. (The group’s real estate division now has a staggering $64 billion in assets under management.)

Apart from that…

The big banks… have they been broken down and broken up? 

No. They’re bigger than ever.

Health care… education… defense… finance… Have the zombie sectors been brought under control? 

No. They are more out of control than ever. And they’re devouring an ever-larger piece of GDP.

And has excess debt — the real cause of the 2008 financial crisis — been eliminated, or at least reduced? 

Don’t make us laugh…

n the U.S. private sector, debt has been cut back… but only a little. The household savings rate rose to 6% immediately following the crisis. Now it has slipped back to about 4%. 

And total debt (public and private) is higher than ever — thanks to “help” from the feds.

According to former chief economist at the Bank for International Settlements William White (one of the few economists to accurately predict the subprime meltdown), total debt in the developed countries as a percentage of GDP is 30% higher now than it was in 2007.

The feds decided to fight fire with fire. To solve the debt problem, they added debt! The genius of this plan was, we admit, not immediately obvious. But over time, the elegant brilliance of it has practically blinded us.

The feds have always had one overriding goal: to transfer money and power to themselves. They create no wealth. They can get it only by taking from others. The crisis — which was nothing more than a natural market correction in an unnaturally extreme debt cycle, caused largely by the feds — gave them cover for larceny on an even grander scale. 

TARP, QE, ZIRP, Operation Twist — none has had a net positive effect on the real economy. 

Debt is the problem; each of these fixes has left us with more of it. Obviously, that’s not the way to fix things. But from the feds’ point of view, the program has worked beautifully. 

Had the correction been allowed to run its course, deleveraging would have wiped out many investors and many companies — especially in the finance sector. 

Instead, thanks to the feds’ interventions, they are still in business… still profiting from the feds’ debt-friendly policies… and still recycling much of the cash back to the feds. 

News flash: The feds’ easy money goes into the pockets of their friends, clients, supporters — and into their own pockets, too. 

Meanwhile, in the real world, people are struggling. From Bloomberg, a sobering story of a 77-year-old former vice president of marketing for Oral-B who’s been forced to flip burgers to make a wage:

“It seems like another life. At the height of his corporate career, Tom Palome was pulling in a salary in the low six figures and flying first class on business trips to Europe.

“Today, the 77-year-old former vice president of marketing for Oral-B juggles two part-time jobs: one as a $10-an-hour food demonstrator at Sam’s Club, the other flipping burgers and serving drinks at a golf club grill for slightly more than minimum wage…

“Even many affluent baby boomers who are approaching the end of their careers haven’t come close to saving the 10-20 times their annual working income that investment experts say they’ll need to maintain their standard of living in old age.

“For middle-class households, with incomes ranging from the mid-five to low six figures, it’s especially grim. When the 2008 financial crisis hit, what little Palome had saved — $90,000 — took a beating, and he suddenly found himself in need of cash to maintain his lifestyle. With years, if not decades, of life ahead of him, Palome took the jobs he could find.”

Actually, this report has a positive message. It helps settle our nerves. Even at 77, if we make it that far, we may be able to find work flipping burgers! 

Heck, we might like flipping burgers!

But most people will take little comfort from this story. Most people would rather sit at home and collect their pensions. 

But the feds are ahead of them. Reducing the rate of return on safe investments, the feds have taken trillions of dollars from the pockets of people such as Mr. Palome. 

Their savings earn little income. And the pension funds into which they pay their money have a hard time keeping up with their commitments. Deficits grow. Defaults and cutbacks loom. 

Household income is back to levels not seen since 1984. And the number of people with real jobs as a percentage of the working age population has never been lower. 

If this is success… then give us failure!

Regards,

Bill Bonner
for The Daily Reckoning

This essay was originally featured in the Diary of a Rogue Economist

 

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For Oil and Gas Producers, It’s All About Assets: GPOR, GST, SYRG

Posted by Tom Armistead - The Energy Report

on Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:07

The industry is focusing on liquid-rich plays, but some gassier regions offer solid returns, asserts Joel Musante, senior research analyst for oil and gas exploration and production with Euro Pacific Capital. With oil trading over $100 per barrel, liquids-rich plays are most attractive. Prices may pull back, even though the surge in merger and acquisition activity suggests that some companies might believe that these price levels are here to stay. Ultimately, producers must consider development costs as well as product types and margins to enhance returns. In this interview with The Energy Report, Musante discusses oil and gas companies with the right combinations.

The Energy Report: Joel, how do you identify winners in the crowd of junior oil and gas companies?

Joel Musante: I look for companies with an attractive property base, good dealmakers and resilient leadership. It’s important to have a good land position where a company could drill commercially economic wells. Many smaller E&Ps have limited financial resources, so it is also important not to overpay for properties. A poorly structured, overleveraged balance sheet could be the death knell for a junior oil and gas company. Good dealmakers usually find creative ways to buy quality properties at attractive terms. I think it is also important to have a resilient management team that can stick it out through the rough patches, which seem to be inevitable in the oil and gas industry.

TER: In the past you’ve identified keys to an oil and gas company’s success, such as valuable properties, access to funding and strategic leadership. How do those criteria rank in importance to you?

JM: It is hard to rank which criteria will be most important for a company’s success, because it depends on external factors as well. Properties are very important, but I’ve seen strong management teams do pretty well with a mediocre property base and unfocused management teams fail with good properties. Access to funding is critical in many cases to growing production and reserves, but companies generally build their investor base up over time.

TER: Are there any innovations in technologies that you find especially interesting?

horizontal-drilling-600px-1JM: The improvements in horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking is the most recent innovation that has changed the landscape of the oil and gas industry, making it possible to develop oil and gas deposits in shales and other tight formations. But this is old news at this point. Currently, most oil and gas companies utilizing this technology are trying to improve these operations in their specific development areas by finding the optimal frack design. The ultimate goal is usually to optimize returns by improving recoveries, increasing production rates and lowering costs. Some investors may find a discussion boring about the optimal number of frack stages or whether to use ceramic or sand-based proppant, but that’s where we are at now.

TER: Is there a sweet spot for the oil and gas mix in the companies’ proved reserves?

JM: When you’re talking about reserves, liquids are generally better than gas because the margins are better. However, when deciding on the best place to drill a new well, you also have to take into account the investment cost. In this case, it seems like the wet gas plays or volatile condensate/oil plays earn the highest returns. These parts of the reservoir typically have a lot of energy, resulting in higher production rates and better recoveries. This will drive the economics of the well even though the product mix may include more NGLs and natural gas, which realize lower prices than oil. By drilling in the oil window, the price realizations may be higher, but production rates and recoveries are often less. In the natural gas window, production rates and recoveries could be high, but price realizations are low.

TER: West Texas Intermediate (WTI) has ranged from $100 per barrel ($100/bbl) to $110/bbl since early July, while natural gas has remained stuck below $4 per million British thermal units ($4/MMBtu). Is this the new normal for oil and gas?

JM: I model for $90–100/bbl oil prices and $3–4/MMBtu gas prices on a going-forward basis. Obviously, the prices could go above that, but I think we lack the demand to keep prices much higher than that. If prices go below that, I don’t see them staying there for very long because development would likely fall off at lower prices.

TER: What struck me about the oil price was that it was very clearly confined within the range of $100–110/bbl since July, after lingering below $100/bbl for months before that. I’m wondering whether it’s going to stay that high, or is there something that’s going to pull it back down?

JM: There could have been a number of factors that contributed to the surge in prices. Some pipelines came online and alleviated the supply bottleneck in the mid-continent region of the country. This narrowed the gap between West Texas Intermediate and Brent prices, which had been trading at above $100/bbl for some time. The WTI price benefited from the new pipelines, increasing to above $100. The push for U.S. involvement in the civil war in Syria was also a contributing factor. Oil tends to be viewed, I think, as a hedge against the inflating dollar and concerns about the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing policy.

TER: How are these prices affecting the earnings of the companies you cover? Are oil-rich companies doing better than companies with more gas reserves?

JM: I would say that in general, oil-rich companies are doing better. Many gas companies have already moved to a liquid development strategy by acquiring and developing properties in liquid-rich plays. But there are still some attractive places to drill for natural gas, where a company can earn high returns. It will usually take very low well costs and/or very high production rates and recoveries.

TER: What is Euro Pacific Capital forecasting for prices in the fourth quarter?

JM: I’m generally using about $3.50/MMBtu for natural gas and for oil my price deck going forward is $90/bbl. I think these levels are sustainable.

TER: The dollar’s strength has been buffeted by news from the Fed, including Larry Summers’s withdrawal and the decision to continue quantitative easing. How is the dollar’s strength influencing oil and gas prices?

JM: Oil trades inversely to the strength of the dollar. Generally, if the dollar weakens then oil prices increase and vice versa. One trend we have seen recently was an increase in M&A activity in the oilier plays like the Bakken and Eagle Ford. While not necessarily related to a weaker dollar, I think it does suggest that oil and gas producers have taken a more bullish stance on commodity prices.

TER: Has Gulfport Energy Corp. (GPOR:NASDAQ) continued its strong showing in the Utica?

JM: Yes, it continues to drill very solid wells that are consistent with what we expect from the play.

TER: Your research has indicated that pipeline infrastructure is inadequate for some of the plays whereSynergy Resources Corp. (SYRG:NYSE.MKT) and Gulfport Energy are working. Is this a serious crimp in their future or just a temporary setback?

JM: No, I don’t think it is a serious crimp. I believe it is more a result of the quality of the oil and gas plays, at least in the case of Gulfport and Synergy. Gulfport and other companies see great potential in the Utica play in Eastern Ohio, given the early well performance in the play. As a result, these companies have implemented aggressive development plans in the regions, even though Ohio historically has not been a major oil and gas producer and lacks pipeline and processing infrastructure. Infrastructure in the Wattenberg Field in Colorado was insufficient to handle the acceleration in development that was caused by the success of horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking. Synergy and other companies operating in the Wattenberg Field may experience some temporary setbacks, but horizontal development of the play has enhanced their portfolios considerably.

TER: There’s some softness now in NGL prices because so much NGL has been produced. How is that affecting your companies?

JM: Many companies are drilling in NGL-rich areas, so that heightened production resulted in a price correction. Companies can still drill economic wells, but the price that they get for the NGLs is just not as high, so you have to take that into account. As it turns out, in many cases, even though it might lower your returns, the returns are typically still attractive enough to justify the drilling of the well.

TER: You have buy recommendations for Gulfport Energy, Synergy Resources and Gastar Exploration Ltd.(GST:NYSE). Can you talk a little bit about each of them and what is causing you to issue a buy?

JM: Gulfport has 136,000 acres in a lease hold in what is probably the sweet spot of the Utica play, which means the company should enjoy years and years of drilling opportunities in one of the more economic places to drill in North America. Its acreage is very concentrated, with an average working interest of about 95%. The company will be a likely takeover target, once development is further along.

Synergy is more or less a pure-play Wattenberg name. The Wattenberg is one of the premier oil and gas plays. Some leading operators have estimated that 36 wells could be drilled on a spacing unit, which is quite a large number. I don’t know of any other play where someone has made such a claim. A deep inventory of high-return well prospects is driving the underlying value of the stock. For a small company, Synergy has a strong management team. They’re not promotional and they make good decisions.

Gastar Exploration Ltd.’s acreage position in the Marcellus is very economic even though the product mix is gassy. Additionally, the company built a significant leasehold position in a new play in Oklahoma called the Hunton Limestone oil play. It is still early days, but the Hunton play could be a game changer for Gastar. Management has pulled off some pretty impressive acquisitions.

TER: Can you offer us any parting thoughts on the energy markets and how to play them in the current circumstances?

JM: The summer driving season is behind us and we’re going into a lower-demand season for oil. Additionally, the geopolitical issues in Syria have quieted down, so I’d be a little cautious about a price correction for oil. We may see a pullback there.

TER: All right, Joel, thank you very much for your time.

Joel Musante is a Senior Research Analyst covering the oil and gas exploration and production sector with Euro Pacific Capital. Musante has nearly 15 years of research experience through research analyst positions with W.R. Huff Asset Management; Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein; Ferris, Baker Watts, Inc., and C.K. Cooper & Co. In 2011 he was ranked No. 1 in The Wall Street Journal “Best on the Street” analyst stock-picking survey for the oil and gas sector. Musante holds a Master of Business Administration degree from the University of Rochester Simon School of Business and a Bachelor of Science degree in geology and geophysics from the University of Connecticut.

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